Why there is no second chance.

[realist07]

i would like explain my situtiation to you shortly, i met with my fiancee through internet and after 4 months chatting she came to my country and stayed 3 months, in that time we decided to get marry,
we would like to apply prospective marriage visa.
i am a turkish citizen 35 years old, she australian citizen from birth. 41 years old.

we asked all the options and found out that we have only chance,
our lawyer said that there is no MRT. if we take the visa then its fine if not we have no second option.your future wife has to go your country and live there with you

i am really confused.. please somebody help.

why all those people going MRT? i mean what is the fact about that instutition?
i see a lot of cases people winning MRT .
for the rejected cases, is this true that there is NO SECOND OPTİON.

jesus, thats againts the human rights, we are very genuine and i am really confused now.

[downundervisa]

Firstly, your lawyer is incorrect. If your application is refused, seeing as the sponsor (your fiancee) is an Australian Citizen, yes it is most definitely reviewable by MRT.

Is your lawyer a Registered Migration Agent? Clearly they don't understand Australian Migration Law if they told you this. There are a number of Agents here who answer questions on this forum, and I'm sure any of us could help you to put together a good and sound application that should have as few problems as possible.

Secondly, you seem to be expecting refusal. You should be preparing for success, and not for failure. If you approach this defensively, it is quite likely the case officers will pick this up and wonder if you are trying to hide something. If you have a valid application and if you meet the criteria set out in Australian Migration Law, then your visa should be granted. Prepare for success! Use an experienced agent. Prepare an application which meets all the requirements, and it should all be fine. If there are problems, together with your agent you can deal with these IF they occur.

I'm not being unsympathetic. I know how scary it is. I've been through it all before, and it's scary to think that a huge decision about your future life hangs in the balance. But many thousands go through this every year, and we get through it. We survive. And before you know it, you and your wife are living in Australia and looking back on this as part of your personal history.

[realist07]

i really thanks for your answer and i want to explain that i am not hiding anything..
its not possible to hide somethings from Goverment of Australia i clearly know that.
my migration agent is an experienced lawyer (16 years) we provided him every document he needs.
my fiance can able to sponsor me she is earning enough money for that.

whole this visa thing is like a ''nightmare'' i swear i am having sleepless nights .

we are not expenting a refusal, we just asked him back up plan, just for incase , what can be our situtiation. so he answered ''there is no back up plan'' and
MRT is not an option.

thats why i asked this question here :)) otherwise of course we are not expecting a refusal , all this visa period makes people think ,
there is 2 answer ''yes'' or ''no'' thinking that we dont have 3. option can make every person really stressfull. especially our relationship is real and we love eachother.


again thanks for your answer.

[nvoorst]

Jeff is correct.

If the visa is refused, then your sponsor can ask for a review by the MRT.

Fiance visas are not all that difficult, as long as your relationship is genuine and you provide the correct paperwork.

Some lawyers practice in many areas of law and do not have an extensive knowledge of migration law,unless they are specialist migration lawyers.

Registered migration agents deal exclusively with migration matters.

Best of luck,

Nick van Voorst

[downundervisa]

Exactly! Nick is also correct. Law is very complex. Most lawyers will only work in one or maybe two areas, and will refer clients to other lawyers if the area is outside of their area of expertise. I can't help but be concerned if your lawyer does not know which cases are reviewable. Just be careful, OK?

And glad we can help.

[realist07]

thanks all your help, monday i am gonna talk with him again but as far as i know he practices immigration law. i dont want to put his name here, thats gonna be disrespectfull.
if i dont like his answers then i am gonna change him.

its hard to find helpfull people like you.. Thank you

[downundervisa]

Maybe he needs more practice??? :-)

No, of course we don't want to know his name. We're only interested to make sure you get the help you need.

If you DO find you need some help, I'd suggest that you contact Nick. He's very helpful and very experienced. I'm in the middle of moving at the moment, so I couldn't give you the attention that you would need.