"Electronics Engineer 2125-13" and "Closely related" work experience

[SergeyAU]

Hi.

I know that there is a lot of experienced agents here and I would like to ask a small question to the audience.

I am thinking of accessing as Electronics Engineer. I am from Russia and I have 5 year study university degree in Engineering. My study was connected to power plant industrial automatics and relay protection systems. I think I have plenty of chances to be successful in IEA assessment. I have no worries about getting an assessment. My question is related to DIAC decision making process itself.

My current position is Network Administrator. I am working in IT field, particularly in data communication and computer networks areas with more that 5+ years of work experience. I am in charge of network design (copper circuits, fiber optics channels), equipment selection, installation and operation supervising.

In order to get pass mark of 120 points I will need 10 points for "Specific work experience". Candidate will get extra 10 points only if "have been employed in your nominated occupation, or a closely related occupation listed on the SOL, for at least three (3) of the four (4) years before the day of your application". My question is: will my 5+ work experience be counted by DIAC as "closely related" and will I get extra 10 points in this case?

I suppose this question is also connected with "Occupation in demand" option.
"you have been employed in your nominated skilled occupation or a closely related skilled occupation for a period totalling at least one (1) year in the four (4) years immediately before you make your application."

I do understand that it is a hard question to answer and it depends on many conditions but all I want to know is how big or small my chances are and what exactly is concerned as "closely related" to Electronics Engineer occupation. Or it would be better to have IELTS passed with 7\7\7\7 in order to have 125 points even without points for "Occupation in demand" and "Specific work experience" options.

Thanks in advance.

[Amin Rahman]

Hi.

I know that there is a lot of experienced agents here and I would like to ask a small question to the audience.

I am thinking of accessing as Electronics Engineer. I

My current position is Network Administrator. I am working in IT field, particularly in data communication and computer networks areas with more that 5+ years of work experience. I am in charge of network design (copper circuits, fiber optics channels), equipment selection, installation and operation supervising.



In both your CDR application that you will submit to EA and Employment Reference Letter that you will submit with your visa application, you have to show that your job duties arte at a high level, ie. you perform work that only a graduate engineer can understand and do.

While the first item network design is OK, for the next three job duties you have listed, just on their own they seem very general. To perform these three job duties, in general, one may not need any specialised engineering knowledge at degree level. If you do not elaorate these job duties further the case officer will may make their own assumptions.

[SergeyAU]

Thank you. I understand the concept.
I'll try to express and present my duties at high engineer level (as it really is) in employer reference. Sure, in addition, I'll try to pass IELTS with 7\7\7\7 score but I'am not so confident about it.

[Sheelagh Blanckenberg]

Thanks for your response Amin.

If I could just add Sergey that I think you should take the IELTS test whether you end up needing it for your visa application or not. Being able to demonstrate your English capability once you are in Australia via an IELTS will be too your advantage when looking for employment amongst other things

[SergeyAU]

Being able to demonstrate your English capability once you are in Australia via an IELTS will be too your advantage when looking for employment amongst other things

Sure, having good IELTS result is a plus in non-English speaking country (ex. Russia), but I think in English speaking country having English skills above intermediate is a must in any case and it must be demonstrated by using vocational\written English directly.

Considering job seeking from overseas even with good IELTS results: it is way too hard to find an employer who will be so generous to make a sponsorship via Employer Nominated Scheme visa subclass. I've tried a number of times but I was told that there is number of permanent residents\citizens with same skills already and an employer does not want to deal with overseas candidate. Maybe, some of residents of this forum have any connections or suggestions how to find this kind of employer in my area of specialization? I will provide my detailed CV to the person who has any options in this area via PM. Thanks in advance.

[Amin Rahman]

Sure, having good IELTS result is a plus in non-English speaking country (ex. Russia), but I think in English speaking country having English skills above intermediate is a must in any case and it must be demonstrated by using vocational\written English directly.

Considering job seeking from overseas even with good IELTS results: it is way too hard to find an employer who will be so generous to make a sponsorship via Employer Nominated Scheme visa subclass. I've tried a number of times but I was told that there is number of permanent residents\citizens with same skills already and an employer does not want to deal with overseas candidate. Maybe, some of residents of this forum have any connections or suggestions how to find this kind of employer in my area of specialization? I will provide my detailed CV to the person who has any options in this area via PM. Thanks in advance.

If you like you may visit my website http://www.ozma.org and have a look at the tools and exercises in the FREE portable English learning gymnasium (ZALEG) that I am developing. A lot of people, both clients and non-clients, have benfited from it.

[Sheelagh Blanckenberg]

Sergey

I am working with a group of recruitment and migration agents who are trying to assist skilled migrants find sponsors in Australia.

Please send me a detailed and updated resume (email: sheelagh.blanckenberg@gmail.com) and I will pass it on to the recruitment firm.

If they are able to immediately assist you they will let you know. Otherwise they will put you into their database and do their best to look out for something which suits.

Cheers
Sheelagh

[Sheelagh Blanckenberg]

Hi Sergey

By way of quick update the one recruitment firm I know does placements of IT/Electronic specialists so if you are still keen to find a potential sponsor please forward your resume to me.

Cheers
Sheelagh

[SergeyAU]

By way of quick update the one recruitment firm I know does placements of IT/Electronic specialists so if you are still keen to find a potential sponsor please forward your resume to me.
Thanks a lot, Sheelagh. Please, check your e-mail.

[Sheelagh Blanckenberg]

OK, will do :)

[Sheelagh Blanckenberg]

Hi Sergey

Have just sent your resume through to the recruitment company - check your email for details.

As I also just mentioned in another posting on this forum, please check out the employment related websites we have included on our job/employment sub-forum. This way you will get a feel for what sort of IT related jobs companies are after and which companies are searching. There is a lot of talk in the local media that Australia is already beginning to experience a shortage of IT personnel in certain specialisations and that this is going to become a real headache for companies in the not too distant future as our economy starts taking off again.

Cheers
Sheelagh